tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-786934403154990603.post956884433720057747..comments2024-02-11T08:53:07.478+00:00Comments on Particulations: The New PsychogeographyParticulationshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02947346759330291873noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-786934403154990603.post-45043477171225610842014-10-19T16:17:26.963+01:002014-10-19T16:17:26.963+01:00Hi Dave,
I did some psychogeography in LA once, i...Hi Dave,<br /><br />I did some psychogeography in LA once, it was a bizarre, but exciting, experience, so I understand what you mean about the dominance of cars in US urban space.<br /><br />I really liked the blog you linked me too above. The psychogeography of this guy may interest you as it looks at geographical space in general and orients it in a very different way to the Situationists:<br /><br />http://www.amazon.com/Developmental-Time-Cultural-Space-Psychogeography/dp/0915042053<br /><br />All the best, TParticulationshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02947346759330291873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-786934403154990603.post-62749127226044833662014-10-18T13:27:17.515+01:002014-10-18T13:27:17.515+01:00Hi Tina,
Lucky for me that The Art of Urban Wand...Hi Tina, <br /><br />Lucky for me that The Art of Urban Wandering is available via my library. <br /><br />Well, my other interests are many, but I think what gets me thinking about this is that sense that we (humans) are increasingly forced - urban living, and all - straying from the life we've evolved for. <br /><br />I love to walk, ride my bike. There shouldn't be anything mystical about that. We've (USA, Chicago, etc) constructed this world that is so car centered that the act of walking in many places feels like an act of eccentricity! <br /><br />My truck has been in the shop - so more than ever I have been relying on feet, bike and trains to work, etc. I'm going to write about these past couple weeks when I can clear my desk : )<br /><br />Oh, and here's something I wrote in 2013:<br /><br />http://osagegroup.blogspot.com/2013/05/psychogeography-landscape-and-memory.html <br /> <br />DC<br /><br /> Dave Coulterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12613987836803392641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-786934403154990603.post-49991344471003961522014-10-14T10:20:42.561+01:002014-10-14T10:20:42.561+01:00Hello Joe,
I was just thinking of this very issue...Hello Joe,<br /><br />I was just thinking of this very issue last night as I realised I hadn’t addressed it at all in my slide or blog. So, thanks for bringing it up. It is a tricky one, since psychogeography (usually, and at least in relation to the Situationists) has been a response to the spectacle, which is more apparent in urban than rural space. However, there was a type of psychogeography, which may have even preceded the SI, that looked at any geographical space, rural included (see Niederland and Stein).<br /><br />Some psychogeographers do counter-tourist activities, which obviously stray into more rural areas. Also, one may do a walk that crosses urban/suburban/rural boundaries, so can we fairly say that are not doing psychogeography at the point they cross those nebulous lines?<br /><br />I don’t really have an answer. I can only say that historically walking in obvious rural spaces has not been classified under psychogeography. However, I prefer to be generous in my use of the term, rather than exclusive. There is little nature left anymore. Most of what we call nature is actually second-nature, so the land has already been worked on (e.g. rural ‘beauty spots’ that have public access but may also be used for sheep grazing). So, we could comment on that land in relation to certain power structures that are also in play there. And we could certainly comment on them in a subjective aesthetic/affective way.<br /><br />I would tend towards using the term psychogeography generally for urbania, since that is why it was created, in order to provide a critique of urban space that was different from that of the walker of the countryside, but I’m open to discussion on the matter.<br /><br />Thanks.<br /><br />All the best, TinaParticulationshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02947346759330291873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-786934403154990603.post-3930940929642115782014-10-14T10:07:51.585+01:002014-10-14T10:07:51.585+01:00Hi Dave,
Thanks for your detailed comment. I don&...Hi Dave,<br /><br />Thanks for your detailed comment. I don't think it matters that you can't pin down psychogeography - it's 'the nature of the beast' - and I think that is one of its positive qualities, although not everyone feels that way.<br /><br />Coverley’s book is a brilliant introduction to the field. You might also like his ‘The Art of Urban Wandering’ if you are interested in literature and urban walking. I think Richard Long is a great example of art/psychogeography. Have you heard of the Walking Artists’ network, btw? I haven’t heard of Tim Robinson, so I will check him out right away. Thanks.<br /><br />One of the great things about psychogeography is its interdisciplinarity, so if you let me know what your other interests are, I may be able to point you in the direction of a psychogeographer who crosses into that field.<br /><br />All the best, TinaParticulationshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02947346759330291873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-786934403154990603.post-14053257431008550492014-10-14T07:39:51.286+01:002014-10-14T07:39:51.286+01:00You (in your quote from Sinclair) specifically men...You (in your quote from Sinclair) specifically mention 'urban walkers'. Do you see the New Psychogeography as being exclusively urban?Joe Clarkehttps://www.facebook.com/InternationalPsychogeographer?ref=bookmarksnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-786934403154990603.post-65867434607610649502014-10-13T17:06:47.771+01:002014-10-13T17:06:47.771+01:00I found your blog today courtesy of @ramblanista v...I found your blog today courtesy of @ramblanista via Twitter. In fact, I have to say that I'd never heard the term psychogeography prior to my wading into the Tweetosphere. I've visited the UK a couple times mainly for work related things - and I've since tried to keep up with the happenings there re: landscape, sustainability, etc etc.<br /><br />The whole idea is intriguing, but I will admit that I haven't yet been able to clearly define psychogeography in my own mind. I was excited when I rec'd Merlin Coverly's book, but that didn't exactly clarify matters (no fault of his, I should add). <br /><br />I'm not sure I can add an opinion to what the new psychogeography is when I haven't quite grasped the old one yet! I guess in my mind, I think an artist like Richard Long sums up what I feel like the word should mean. Tim Robinson is one of my favorite writers, and I guess I would add him to my list too. (Please feel free to point me in the direction of others, by the way) <br /><br />The whole discipline seems very much rooted in the UK & Europe. I want to add quickly that the handful of psychogeographers that I follow on social media have been unfailingly kind and interesting. I'll be looking forward to more.......<br /><br />Dave<br /> <br /><br /><br />Dave Coulterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12613987836803392641noreply@blogger.com